What a crying shame, you finally get that five minutes of fame people are always talking about (okay in this instance it was about 48 seconds, but this woman is so ignorant five minutes would have qualified as cruel and unusual punishment), and you come off looking like a fool- a proud fool, but a fool none the less. Chris Matthews was interviewing folks outside Centre College, where the debate was being held, when this woman shouted from the crowd to get herself on TV. The sad part is, she could have remained just another unknown ignoramus… (Transcript follows)
Matthews: Who said communist down here, what did you mean by that?
Fool: Well all you have to do is study it out, just study it out and you’ll see. You haven’t done your homework buddy.
Matthews: And what do I need to study?
Fool: He’s a communist, and those of us who are not voting for him know it.
Matthews: What do you mean by communist?
Fool: You don’t know?
Matthews: No, just tell me, help me out here.
Fool: You don’t know?
Matthews: I just want to know what you mean.
Fool: Oh I know what I mean.
Matthews: Well help us out, you’re on national television.
Fool: Oh I know I’m on national television
Matthews: Well tell me what you mean when you just accused the guy of being a communist, you think he’s an American?
Fool: You should study it out.
Matthews: Is he an American?
Fool: Oh no.
Matthews: He’s not an American.
Matthews: What is he, what country’s he from?
Fool: Just cause he was born here doesn’t mean that he thinks like us. He’s a communist buddy.
Matthews: Okay thank you.
The most pathetic thing about this little exchange is, she’ll go home all proud of herself, her fellow idiots will pat her on the back; meanwhile most of the people who watch the video are just trying to wrap their heads around that level of stupid.
Fox “News” pin-up Gretchen Carlson on the other hand, reduced the debate between opponents for the second highest office in America down to her feminine sensibilities. As serious people parse Thursday night’s debate, and get into the heady business of fact checking and policy clarification, Carlson is offended “as a woman” because Joe Biden didn’t adopt “Midwestern” debate tactics; she whines:
“I mean, just speaking as a woman for a minute. And I really want to know the difference in the gender opinion this morning [...]
…there is such a thing as Midwestern sensibilities and Midwestern politeness, and “oh yeah, you go in front of me.”
Guess what Gretchen, you’re not in Kansas anymore! You really should decide at some point whether you’re a journalist, or aging pageant queen.
Meanwhile, over at CBS, the news team evidently counted how many times Biden interrupted Ryan, and in an interview this morning, Norah O’Donnell asked Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm if that made him look rude:
“I don’t think so … again your poll shows he came off as more relatable, and he couldn’t just let misstatements lie there; he had to step in, otherwise the lies exist.”
Get it Gretchen? Here’s some more Fox “News” spin from Chris Stirewalt:
Biden was trying to come across as a man bemused, an old campaigner who just had to laugh at the little whippersnapper who was spouting nonsense. Instead, Biden came across as an angry man who gave no fair hearing to his challenger and refused to listen.
Ryan was deferential to a fault, giving the 69-year-old incumbent a wide berth and speaking quietly and respectfully. But Biden showed no generosity to the younger man, and instead was dripping with mockery and scorn.
Will Roger Ailes just come clean and register Fox network as a Republican PAC? Ryan is a
punk whippersnapper who spouts nonsense; nonsense which has gotten its fair hearing, been positively eviscerated by economists, yet continues to be held up as a viable plan by Romney’s campaign. Joe Biden’s fed up with the endless bullshit that emanates from his opponents, and isn’t going to put up with it in a debate in front of millions of voters.
While we’re at it Fox, cut the sappy choirboy portrayal of Paul Ryan please. It’s about time he has to answer questions about his phony budget claims, and his plans to screw most of America over. He’s a big boy- if he can’t cut it with the grownups, then Romney shouldn’t have chosen him.
Jay Nordlinger over at National Review, posted his feel-good notes about the debate, which included:
He [Biden] is accusing us — us Republicans — of wanting another war. Nice.
You don’t want another war? I’m sorry, we’re all confused, Romney’s beating his chest like he wants war; in fact Foreign Policy summed up Romney’s VMI speech this way:
Real follow through on what Romney promised can lead to only one outcome, repeated many times over — war, war, and more war.
Mitt even called leaving Iraq after only a decade an “abrupt withdrawal.” Romney refuses to own or argue for the real implications of what he is saying. If his words are to be taken seriously, then Romney is committing the United States to a path of military intervention in the Middle East that will make the Bush years seem like a cakewalk after all.
Do you listen to your candidate, or your Congressmen for that matter, Mr. Nordlinger?
Nordlinger again: Biden is effective on the economy, I’m afraid — because he’s got the class-warfare shtick down pat.
Yeah, that’s why. The term “shtick” in this case, that would be regarding Biden’s calling Ryan out on your 47% moochers mantra, right?
Nordlinger again: Biden, more than most people, talks about “the middle class” without cease. Increasingly, I’m coming to see this as one of the most phony-baloney phrases in our lexicon. I guess it means everyone who doesn’t wear a top hat and tails or sleep under a bridge.
According to Romney that’s exactly what it means; he calls the middle class anyone making $250,000. or less. Liberals on the other hand read, and thus know the range for middle class is roughly between $25,000 and $100,000 a year.
John Hawkins echoed the party’s rudeness talking point, and claims Ryan came off as “presidential”. If you’re talking Senior Class President, I’d be inclined to agree, but I’m pretty sure there was water dripping from behind Ryan’s ears throughout the debate.
Chris Wallace was offended by Biden’s debate style, stating:
“…he was shocked by how “openly contemptuous” Biden appeared to act towards Ryan…
He said he was put off by the words as well as the style — calling Ryan’s statements “malarkey” and “stuff” and “loose talk.”
Wallace called it “unprecedented” and “extraordinary.”
It’s not your Daddy’s politics anymore, Chris. There are millions of people who are openly contemptuous of both Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney for their phony claims and lack of transparency. Republican spin aside however, according to the instant post-debate poll by CBS News:
Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night’s vice presidential debate… said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney’s GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan…
…31 percent deemed Ryan the winner, and 19 percent said they felt it was a tie.
Ryan, though, faced a loss among voters’ opinions of which candidate would be an effective president, if necessary. Before the debate, he led Biden 45 percent to 39 percent; after the debate, 56 percent of those polled said Biden would be an effective president, with fewer – 49 percent–saying the same about Ryan.
I love Joe Biden. You Conservative whiners should be careful, or your new party Matriarch will scold you for behaving like children, and you don’t want Queen Ann getting mad at you.